Teaching Vocabulary and Grammar Online
September 2005

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TeresaD: hi everyone!

RonGr: hi

DouglasWC: hi...

DafneG: hi Douglas

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TeresaD: hi, nellie!

DafneG: Tere, I have just received a message that my article about my English for Architecture and Urban planning blended courses will be published in the Dec 06 issue of Essential Teacher

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TeresaD: congrats, daf!!!

RonGr: congratulations

NellieD: Hi Teresa, small world,isn't it? How are you?

TeresaD: hi, steven!

DouglasWC: kudos!

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StevenJ: Hi everyone!

DafneG: thanks

NellieD: Kudos to you, too.

TeresaD: so we have doug, ro and steven so far. let's see if any of the girls show up! ;-)

NellieD: Do any of you use Talking Communities?

DafneG: I knew it was going to be published because they asked for it, but I did not know when

TeresaD: carla got her GMTs all mixed up last saturday

DafneG: Steven was confused too, but I was lucky to find him online at YM half an hour before our chat

StevenJ: he's still confused

DafneG: lol, Steven

TeresaD: it can be confusing at first. and not everyone knows about The World Clock page, which is a great help

StevenJ: i just figure, its 11 in venezuela, and thats 10 here

DafneG: Nellie, we use Alado

TeresaD: and 4 pm in portugal, steven!

StevenJ: but is there a way by looking at the world clock

DafneG: right, Steven :-)

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TeresaD: sure, steven. let me get the URL

StevenJ: no teresa, dafne gave it to me

TeresaD: ok

StevenJ: thanks....but

TeresaD: no thanks ;-)

StevenJ: i dont understand how i calculate mexio in relation to the gmt

StevenJ: i mean i can see the time in every city of the world

RonGr: Arizona is 7 hrs earlier than GMT; Sonora at least is probably the same or close

TeresaD: you look up the city nearest you and then see wht time it is in GMT (bottom of the oage) and calculate the difference. does this make sense?!

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StevenJ: actually, i think im getting bogged down

DafneG: hi Emily

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TeresaD: bogged down by ???

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TeresaD: hi, catlin!

DafneG: I think Sus created a tutorial for the world clock, didn't she, Tere?

StevenJ: im -5, ill just let it go at that

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TeresaD: she did. let me see if i can find it, daf

CatlinH: Hi! I'm glad I found you all

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DafneG: right, Steven,

TeresaD: http://64.71.48.37/teresadeca/webheads/baw/world-clock.html

DafneG: yes, Catlin, you are here with us :-)

StevenJ: thanks teresa

TeresaD: nothing better than the TI reception to find someone

DafneG: at any time

TeresaD: right

CatlinH: It's past my bedtime, but this is very interesting. What have people used Tapped In for?

DafneG: you can look at the TI calendar to learn about all the workshops that take place daily here at TI

DafneG: it is under the "welcome to Tapped In" column above the chat area

TeresaD: tons of things, catlin. a lot of PD sessions, presentations, meetings with students, etc. the calendar is the best way to find out. always sth going on every day

DafneG: http://snipurl.com/GuestCalendar

TeresaD: catlin, what time is it where you are? whers is it exactly? i forgot :-(

Maggi: your time zone is wrong Catlin

CatlinH: I was just looking at the Guest Calendar.... it's midnight here in Japan.

TeresaD: today we can meet at my office. i'll go there first and then all you have to do is select my name on the Online tab (left) and click the litlle door icon below it. is that ok with everyone in PP 104?

Maggi: you have the PST default

DafneG: fine, Tere

StevenJ: lead the way

TeresaD: i see, catlin. yes, it's late

TeresaD: ok, i'll lead the way

CatlinH: OK

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TeresaD: welcome ron, steven, daf and doug!

TeresaD: already ron? we haven't even started! ;-)

DafneG: hmm, hope Catlin is notlost in cyberspace

RonGr: just checking

StevenJ: lol

TeresaD: it's the best way to be lost!

TeresaD: or... the best place!

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DafneG: welcome, Catlin

TeresaD: welcome catlin!

TeresaD: catlin, did you have time to look at the TI calendar?

CatlinH: yeah! I found you!

TeresaD: great!!!

TeresaD: and later you need to get your office, catlin.

DafneG: thanks for the welcome message on your whiteboard, Tere :-)

CatlinH: Yes, I looked at the calendar. The Tips and Tricks is advice about using Tapped In?

TeresaD: welcome! :-)

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DafneG: right, Catlin

StevenJ: I just saw that...it´s nice a nice touch

DafneG waves hi to Carla!

TeresaD: and there are tours

CarlaA: hi!

TeresaD: welcome, carla!

CarlaA: today I could figure out the right time

TeresaD: you got the time right. yes!

DafneG: great!

DouglasWC: Group 2 present and accounted for!

TeresaD: glad you like the welcome message, steven

TeresaD: right, doug!

StevenJ: is it possible to go into someones office without them being there?

DafneG: lol, doug. I have put a "here" check next to your names ;-)

TeresaD: if you want a bigger chat window, click Actions above and Detach

DafneG: yes, Steven

TeresaD: yes, steven. unless it's locked

DafneG: you click on the Tappen In tab, on top of the screen..

StevenJ: i sound sort of nosy dont i?

DafneG: and or go to search

TeresaD: and remember that you can also change the Font size

DafneG: better search

DafneG: and write the name of the person you are looking for

StevenJ: ok

DafneG: you will get a page with a link to his/her office

StevenJ: cool

TeresaD: this is a great environment, steven.

DafneG: some people lock their offices, though

DafneG: We do not!

TeresaD: much more versatile than when we started her 4 years ago

CarlaA: as i mentioned in the discussion about tapped in, in the past i registered, but didn't have a chance to check it out, so i found it confusing, but now I see it as a very nice tool!

CatlinH: Have any of you used Tapped In with students?

TeresaD: i don't have any jewelry here, so i don't lock it ;-)

StevenJ: i feel like ive been living in a cave

DafneG: there is a Webheads in Action group here, at TI

TeresaD: lol, steven

DafneG: you can find info about Webheads there, and you can join the group

DafneG: that was my feeling 4 years ago, too, Steven

TeresaD: i've had meetings with students of other colleagues here, catlin

CarlaA: i found the webheads here, and that's where I could find the info to join the online seminar in november

StevenJ: what a relief

DafneG: I was completely Web-illiterate

TeresaD: we've all been there, steven. what a great change when we start gettingreally involved in cyberspace, isn't it?

CarlaA: steven, I think everybody has, at some point, felt jurassic!!! I still have this feeling...

TeresaD: i wasn't, but the webheads have opened up so many different horizons and friendships

StevenJ: carla the site you linked is phenomenal

CarlaA: which one?

StevenJ: it´s one for the school

StevenJ: but it has so many interesting areas to explore

TeresaD: i'm already compiling the sites we've been suggesting plus all those in the course. i'll have the page up very soon and will update it regulalrly

CarlaA: oh, we've been working on it for 3 years non-stop. That's my job.

StevenJ: well congratulations!

TeresaD: i keep several pages and it isn't always easy. but it's worthwhile

StevenJ: it´s really impressive

DafneG: we will also post to the course Web page the tables you come up with in

TeresaD: carla, i second steve

CarlaA: A friend of mine and I have fewer groups and most of our times we are in front of the computer looking for pedagogical materials to feed the site

TeresaD: we'll have a small website by the time we're finished

CatlinH: It would be great to have that list of sites. We've been introduced to so much in this course, there isn't time to explore it all right now.

TeresaD: we've always done that, catlin. by topics to make it easier

DafneG: Teresa compiles all the pages to interesting sites listed by Webheads in our distribution list

CarlaA: that's greta, teresa. I've been compiling all the sites since the first module. Then, I can send you the link to my bookmarks. It' s open to anyone.

TeresaD: and i also compile all the pages by webheads

TeresaD: ok, carla. my pages are all public

DafneG: we also keep track of all our f2f encounters :-)

TeresaD: that's really fun and special, daf

DafneG: we have even met the children of some of our Webheads colleagues

TeresaD: true. i've met two of them.

DafneG: I have met one, JM's daughter, and i don't know him f2f

CarlaA: now i'm trying to start a collaborative project with a group of one of the webheads and mine.

TeresaD: the webheads are a very special community. you should all consider joining us

StevenJ: Dafne, did you make your pages for your course?

DafneG: yes, Steven, I create all my pages

StevenJ: did you take special courses for design?

TeresaD: me too. and all my presentations. i love doing that

DafneG: not at all

DafneG: I have learned everything on my own with the scaffolding of webheads colleagues

StevenJ: I get real hung-up on the appearance, some sites really are easy on the eyes

StevenJ: I noticed that with the sites my group was assigned

DafneG: someone mentioned Isabel's site

StevenJ: me

TeresaD: i have always been faithful to the KISS principle with my pages

DafneG: she has been our guest speaker for 2 years

TeresaD: she does great work

DafneG: in the Becoming a WEbhead session

StevenJ: oh my gosh, I loved her site

DafneG: yes, it is very useful and well done

TeresaD: and it's full of great materials, isn't it, steven?

StevenJ: it is, i didn't get anywhere near through it, but what i saw was really useful

DafneG: We are planning to invite her again for our Jan. 2006 session

CatlinH: what site is that?

StevenJ: http://www.isabelperez.com

CatlinH: thanks!

StevenJ: no problem!

TeresaD: full of great goodies, catlin

DafneG: you were faster than me, Steven ;-)

StevenJ: i REALLY liked that one

TeresaD: he's getting the hang of things, daf!

StevenJ: i have it tattood on my arm

TeresaD: and fast

TeresaD: lol

DafneG: right!

TeresaD: here's a presentation i did for daf's students last june. it has a very simple layout, but they loved it. there are photo pages and also a photo story

TeresaD: http://64.71.48.37/teresadeca/webheads/bridges/vgamab_pr.htm

TeresaD: see if you like it

TeresaD: later, i mean

StevenJ: quick question

TeresaD: well, i think we've had some very interesting threads and discussions this week, as some of you have commented

TeresaD: yes

StevenJ: how do i copy these links ?

DafneG: you can see here all the guests I had last trimester: http://dafnegonzalez.com/id3125-05/content/guests.html

StevenJ: from this chat?

TeresaD: when you get the chat log

DafneG: they will get to your email on the chatlog

TeresaD: it's much easier

StevenJ: oh that´s right, sorry

DafneG: you can also click on them and then bookmark them

TeresaD: and we'll also post the chat log in our website with all the links

RonGr: It's confusing; they're blue here, so it looks like you can link directly but you can't.

DafneG: yes, you can, Ron

StevenJ: thats my problem

RonGr: how?

StevenJ: ive tried, they dont open

DafneG: unless you have a popup blocker

RonGr aaah!

TeresaD: you can if you click the CTRL key, ron

CatlinH: I've been clicking on all of them, it's great!

StevenJ: That is so cool

StevenJ: the control key temporarily deactivates my popup blocker

RonGr: I guess I have to disable the popup blocker first

DafneG: that's the way we give presentations here, using webpages to show our stuff

RonGr: It didn't disable mine.

RonGr: Mine's better.

RonGr: less disableable

DafneG: lol, Ron

CarlaA: I just checked your page, Teresa. Neat! Maybe I'l l have to send pictures of our recently inaugurated bridge, JK Bridge

TeresaD: thanks, catlin

DafneG: yes, Carla, do! please

TeresaD: when you have the chance, look at the photo story. the link is in slide 2

DafneG: on the page I sent you can see all the bridges that were presented to my students

CarlaA: daf, I think you can do great things with the pictures of Brasilia that I have

DafneG: in fact, I have a unit on Brasilia :-)

CarlaA: fantastic!!! I'll send you the pictures

DafneG: I would love to have those pics, yessss

CarlaA: and with no copyright problems!!!

DafneG: and I can invite you to talk to my students

TeresaD: i also have pics of when i was in brasilia in 1980, daf

CarlaA: of course

DafneG: great!

CarlaA: daf, the monuments are the same, but the city has become much bigger

DafneG: that's what i have heard, Carla, never been there

DafneG: I have only visited the cities next to our border

StevenJ: Dafne, what do you do, have a session via webcam or ?

DafneG: we use Alado or the Elluminate room at LT, and some webcaming too

TeresaD: we have sessions at vClasses, virtual classrooms, steven

CarlaA: i'm doing a project on stereotypes with one of my groups that will include the contrasts in brasilia. rich, poor, beautiful, not so nice to the eyes, etc... When it is ready, I'll send it to you

TeresaD: we could arrange to have one of our chat at alado, daf. would you all like that?

StevenJ: i would love to observe something like that, i really can't imagine it

DafneG: that would be wonderful, Carla

DafneG: you speak Spanish, Steven, right?

StevenJ: yes

DafneG: if so, you are invited to speak to my graduate students

DafneG: good

CarlaA: are these spaces free?

TeresaD: for the webheads,<carla

DafneG: you can tell them your about your experience getting acquainted with the online world

TeresaD: we have a room in each of them

DafneG: if you join webheads, you can have access to these rooms

StevenJ: interesting but my palms already started to sweat

DafneG: I will coach you

CarlaA: so i'll have to join you! DEFINITELY!

StevenJ: ill take you up on that

DafneG: sure!!

TeresaD: yesterday rita, an argentinian wbhead and friend, gave a pres. from a conference through elluminate

DafneG: Tere and I have also webcasted some of our presentations to webheads

TeresaD: six of us were all over the world listening in and participating with her and her audience. it was great!

CarlaA: i attended one in TESOL, a fantastic one, that I could watch again in Learning Times. And I always listen to the online talks they have.

TeresaD: they have fabulous archives, carla

TeresaD: there's no stopping once we get hooked on this! the problem is finding time for everything we'd like to do

CarlaA: Steven, you should register there. There are three guys that discuss CALL every week and they give wonderful ideas

DafneG: What a better way to expose our students to actual vocabulary and grammar than synchronous events?

TeresaD: absolutely, daf

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TeresaD: where did steven go??!! ;-)

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TeresaD: wb

DafneG: wb, Steven

CarlaA: how do you work with vocabulary and grammar in synchronous events?

StevenJ: thanks, i have no idea what happened, i thought i offended someone..jeje

RonGr: don't ask personal questions; he'll say where he went if he wants to

DafneG: exposure to the language, Carla

DafneG: lol, Ron

CarlaA: lol, ron

DafneG: but you can do different activities

DafneG: like role plays

CarlaA: like?

DafneG: photo descriptions

DafneG: simple interviews

CarlaA: this is a great one

DafneG: dictations

DafneG: I have done dictations in Skype

CarlaA: How about attendance? Do all students join?

DafneG: my students join from the computer lab, from home, cyber cafes, or wherever

DafneG: I don't take attendance as such

DafneG: students have a whole week to complete their assignments

DafneG: but I am talking of adults (19 -22)

DafneG: I open a YM conference and invite all who are online

CarlaA: my question is like one you set a time after school to do it. Do all of them join the chat, conference? Are they assessed for that?

DafneG: in that way we keep in touch in case there are questions or I have things to communicate to them

CarlaA: yeah, I've been trying that

CarlaA: even settin a time for online grammar help

TeresaD: have you been successful, cala?

DafneG: I use alternative evaluation,

TeresaD: carla

DafneG: that's great, Carala

DafneG: Carla

DafneG: he he

CarlaA: well, Teresa, I've just started

CarlaA: But the ones who joined loved it

DafneG: if working in a chat, students need to post their chatlogs

TeresaD: don't give up if they don't respons initially. keep on trying, carla

RonGr: gotta go--bye all

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StevenJ: bye ron

TeresaD: bye, ron. see you!

DafneG: they select their best work and post it to an e-portfolio

StevenJ: wow....he´s fast

TeresaD: lol

StevenJ: i have a question, but its about group work

CarlaA: how do they organize their e-portfolios? What kind of material do they include?

DafneG: shoot

StevenJ: well, maybe later is better?

DafneG: depends on the course, Carla,

CarlaA: no that's ok, steven

StevenJ: i dont mean to derail the conversation

DafneG: you can check the assessment pages on my courses

CarlaA: no problem

TeresaD: we're open to diff. topics, steven

StevenJ: well, i understand why group work is important, and useful

DafneG: yes

StevenJ: but in reality, i dont see it working all the time

StevenJ: and for me I love to work in a group

CarlaA: i think it depends on the people who are involved

DafneG: it has to be very well planned, Steven

StevenJ: but schedules and all that...

TeresaD: but not everybody likes to work in a group

TeresaD: sometimes it's the mix of people that may not be good

DafneG: there will be a chapter on a book to appear in March where I talk about group work

StevenJ: i know but how do you handle that

DafneG: I think that the task is fundamental

DafneG: my favorite technique is jigsaw

TeresaD: i was going to say that, daf. task and group members are both important

CarlaA: this time, I think the three of us are working well. but in one course we were three, and just two did all the work, even if the instructor tried to set the tasks!

StevenJ: im puzzled

DafneG: where each student has a piece of information not known by the others

TeresaD: if the task keeps them involved, i think that's part of the success

StevenJ: ah ok

DafneG: and the product they have to come up with needs all those pieces of info

DafneG: so they have to communicate and share their info

StevenJ: but for example when you have groups with very diverse skills sets

TeresaD: it's sort of what happens in a webquest, daf

DafneG: so they have to negotiate meaning

StevenJ: ok, i see

CarlaA: i've attended a workshop that they had jigsaw reading here in TApped in

DafneG: I am going to present on the WiAOC about a conversation analysis I did to 30 chatlogs where students were doing this type of work

CarlaA: i don' t know how you find time for all that, daf!

CatlinH: I'm afraid I've got to go- now that Steven has derailed the conversation -just kidding. I'll read the chatlog to get the rest

StevenJ: bye catlin...sorry!

DafneG: well, I ask myself the same question, Carla ;-)

TeresaD: ok, catlin. thanks for being here

DafneG: thanks, Catlin, see you online

CarlaA: Catlin, I'll post my grammar link today

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DafneG: I love doing group work, and now I prefer when it is done online

StevenJ: I like it too, but ....

DafneG: there are very good articles on cooperative learning, Steven

StevenJ: i feel its best when people form their own groups, after getting to know each other...the only problem is there`s no time for that

StevenJ: I´ve been reading some

StevenJ: I really feel like I need an internship

TeresaD: steven, with our students it's a trial and error process at the beginning. then we start getting the hang of it

DafneG: Kagan has some books with practical stuff

TeresaD: we learn from mistakes as we go along

DafneG: right, Tere

StevenJ: and also

StevenJ: what works for some, wont work for others

StevenJ: i had a great group experience in an online class

DafneG: I used to give teacher training on Cooperative Learning

StevenJ: and the group was assigned, but it worked great

TeresaD: i love to experiment, esp. with young kids. and they love challenges

StevenJ: this week i feel like i didn't succeed at it

CarlaA: in my case it didn't

DafneG: well, sometimes the conditions are not the best one for the different members of a group

StevenJ: i know, and neither teacher nor students can control everything

TeresaD: if the group members aren't in synch, it's hard to makes things work, steven. on or offline

StevenJ: true

CarlaA: in this class the three of us are communicating to accomplish the task.

TeresaD: daf and i are always 'in synch'. it's amazing. we makes the same comments at the same time, and then laugh about the exact timing

DafneG: Tere and I are so used to working together, that we don't even need to talk to know what we should do or say

DafneG: he he

TeresaD: see what we mean?

StevenJ: isn´t that great...

DafneG: lol

TeresaD: it is, steven. and it makes things so much easier and much more pleasant

DafneG . o O ( and she is not sitting next to me )

TeresaD: right

StevenJ: lol

StevenJ: i have another question

TeresaD: go ahead, steven

StevenJ: how do you deal with different levels of the participants

StevenJ: its very hard

TeresaD: we try to be there for each and everyone, steven

StevenJ: Personally, i realize I´m light years behind most in these courses

StevenJ: but I feel like i´m learning a lot

DafneG: in my architecture courses it is the most wonderful thing, they have different levels in English and in their knowledge about arch. In this way they learn from and with each other

StevenJ: but do the more advanced get bored?

StevenJ: if the student has the right attitude, they can learn in almost any situation

DafneG: not in my courses, because I teach content-based, not grammar based

TeresaD: i agree 100%, steven. attitude is basic in any course or classroom

DafneG: english is the means of communication but their tasks are about arch.

TeresaD: besides, students in general like to help one another

DafneG: right, Tere and Steven

StevenJ: do you students know each other from other years?

DafneG: some yes, but usually not, because they study different trimesters of their career

StevenJ: ah ok

DafneG: they can take the English courses any time after they complete their second year in their studies

StevenJ: How is the level in Venezuela, if you can generalize?

CarlaA: guys, sorry to interrupt, but if I wanted to have a private chat with Doug, what should I do? It's nothing pornographic! Don' t take me wrong, it is just that We need to finish our group work!

DafneG: all levels, depending on the school they come from and their attitude towards the language

DafneG: lol, Carla

TeresaD: lol, carla ;-)

DafneG: you can go, Carla

StevenJ: I live in the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico, and really it's amazing to me what passes for bilingual education. I have friends from Colombia who never have been in an English speaking country, yet they speak with native fluency and accent.

DafneG: you have permission to do whatever you are pleased with ;-)

TeresaD: select his name and click the little icon on the left with the face

DafneG: you need to click on the "online" tab first, Carla

CarlaA: Ok. I got it!

DafneG: brb phone

StevenJ: Teresa can I ask a question re: the chart?

TeresaD: sure, steven

StevenJ: how do i use it?

StevenJ: i understan the parts, but to copy it, or make one similar?

TeresaD: you can copy-paste to word in your computer and carry on from there

StevenJ: ah ok, so its easy

StevenJ: thanks

StevenJ: teresa do you know of any program

TeresaD: that's how i would do it. and that's what we do to put up all your final charts in th course website

StevenJ: that hooks up teachers and schools for a sort of internship?

StevenJ: i have a friend who teaches in the states

TeresaD: i don't, steven :-(

StevenJ: and she has had Japanese teachers come and work with her

StevenJ: ok

StevenJ: i really think i need to get connected to and learn from a successful teacher

TeresaD: just a sec. TESOL probably does that

TeresaD: do you mean online?

StevenJ: well, actually id like to be there, and see a teacher who uses online and f2f

StevenJ: I came into teaching through the back door

TeresaD: i'd contact TESOL. do you belong to it?

StevenJ: yes

StevenJ: I have tried to learn but there is so much that i'm missing

TeresaD: ok. let me see if i remember any other assoc. or group

StevenJ: that´s ok, ill investigate a bit. Maybe i can contact a school and volunteer

TeresaD: that's one possiblity. or apply to some internship at a local school. would that be possible?

StevenJ: Do you know anyone in Mexico who is doing really good work in teaching English with an online component?

StevenJ: Well, I really am in the jungle.

TeresaD: i think JoAnn Miller is. let me find her website

StevenJ: now, Cancun is near, in fact my mailing address is there, but there is a real problem with quality.

StevenJ: Well anyway, this course has really made me think.

TeresaD: i'm glad. :-)

TeresaD: i'll try to find joann's site and send it to you

StevenJ: thanks

StevenJ: Are your kids fluent in English?

TeresaD: so, so by the end of the second year. i have absolute beginners this year.

TeresaD: of course, the good students are much more fluent

StevenJ: do you enjoy the absolute beginners?

TeresaD: let me give you an example. just a sec

StevenJ: ok

TeresaD: i do, bec. i can see the difference my work brings about

StevenJ: also , no bad habits

StevenJ: clean slate , so to speak

TeresaD: yes, that's right

TeresaD: http://64.71.48.37/teresadeca/school/fwe5-jun05.htm

DafneG: sorry, was solving a family prob

StevenJ: thank you so much!

TeresaD: scroll down to 21jun and see the video message. rodrigo

StevenJ: ok...thanks...

TeresaD: he's an A student and an enthusiast of everything we did

StevenJ: how many people are in your groups?

TeresaD: 28 at the most. but thisyear i have two groups of 20! :-)

StevenJ: nice

StevenJ: my groups are real small...thankfully

StevenJ: i have so many

StevenJ: maximum of 8

TeresaD: however, i've been able to achieve much more so far with the class of 28

DafneG: that's a great number, Steven

StevenJ: i love it

TeresaD: it sure is

TeresaD: daf, do you have joann miller's website at hand?

DafneG: this trimester I have 16 students in arch. and 23 in my graduate course

DafneG: let me look for it

StevenJ: 23 is sort of a lot for grad isnt it?

TeresaD: that's a lot, isn't it, daf?

TeresaD: esp. the 23

StevenJ: who is joanne miller?

TeresaD: she's the ESL colleague i talked to you about

StevenJ: yes but , i mean she lives in mexio?

TeresaD: she does

StevenJ: does she have a school, or is she a professor?

TeresaD: i'm not sure.

StevenJ: i sure have enjoyed the chat and the fact that you both are so quick to share

TeresaD: thanks, steven. that's the philosophy of the internet amd ours, and... the beauty of it all

StevenJ: have either of you taught in a language school?

TeresaD: try this, steven, for joann. http://www.efltasks.net/grupos/login.php

DafneG: I think that is the right one, I am getting an old page

StevenJ: thanks

TeresaD: ok, daf. thanks

DafneG: not that is not, that is the group she had for the evo session in Jan

TeresaD: well, i need to go up and check on my parents. do you mind if i leave you? you're welcome to stay. no locks!!! ;-)

TeresaD: oh, dear. steven, we have to get back to you on joann's site

StevenJ: ok, thanks...

StevenJ: thanks for the chat

StevenJ: feel free to edit any part of my

DafneG: nice chatting with you, guys, it is time for lunch around here :-)

TeresaD: ok. then we'll all leave, ok?

StevenJ: ok, see you later...thanks again

TeresaD: have a nice lunch, daf. and a nice day to both of you

StevenJ: you too, bye

TeresaD: bye!

DafneG: byeeeee!

StevenJ left the room (signed off).

CarlaA: bye, guys! MY private talk was really productive!

TeresaD: great, carla! have a nice day!

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